<Hound[Claire]>: [Host finds it too awkward to ask about this so I'm doing it.]
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<Hound[Claire]>: [What are the questionable moral justifications for intimate relations with a tulpa?]
<Lizzy[zesta]>: none ^^
<Placidia>: I don't see it any different than a human/human relationship 
<Lizzy[zesta]>: wait... i read that wrong
<Lizzy[zesta]>: alot
<Lizzy[zesta]>: ^
<Goopi>: Hound[Claire]: if both parties want it...
<Lizzy[zesta]>: ^
<Hound[Claire]>: There is one difference, mostly because I'm from a baptist background.
<Lizzy[zesta]>: heh
<Atasco>: An alot is a large fuzzy beast :0
<Lizzy[zesta]>: zesta was too
<Lizzy[zesta]>: well.... not baptist, but close
<Goopi>: lol Atasco 
<Hound[Claire]>: How the hell do you marry something that doesn't exist? Seriously? How does that even WORK?
<Hound[Claire]>: exist physically*
<Quora[Twi|Nibi}>: {You can't}
<Atasco>: Cx
<Goopi>: ceremony in wonderland
<Polite[Julianne]>: Marriage is a societal concept
<Goopi>: easy
<Atasco>: *Alabama
<Polite[Julianne]>: Which is immaterial to begin with
<Hound[Claire]>: Atasco lol
<Polite[Julianne]>: It's like how do you be friends with your tulpa
<Polite[Julianne]>: Its a relationship
<Hound[Claire]>: ah, but you don't need a concept like wed-lock to be friends.
<Polite[Julianne]>: Though I guess you might have to go into moral thoery and all that
<Atasco>: I should be contributing to the actual conversation cx oh well
<Lizzy[zesta]>: well... according to kevin, a marrage is just a spritual bond
<Lizzy[zesta]>: so you CAN
<Hound[Claire]>: That is what I'm interested in, Polite[Julianne].
<Goopi>: Hound[Claire]: how is it any different... just another type of relationship
<Polite[Julianne]>: What is wed-lock exactly? I know the term born out of wed-lock but I'm not learned in a religious manner
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: ot...?
<Polite[Julianne]>: We can talk morality if you want one day
<Polite[Julianne]>: I enjoy talking about the philosophical ramifications and what not
<Polite[Julianne]>: This is relatively on-topic
<Lizzy[zesta]>: "well, you marry someone, and become intertwined with them essentally"
<Polite[Julianne]>: But I'll stop
<Placidia>: it's on topic
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<Selwyn[Mizore]>: How far does marriage extend vs a relationship anyway? Marriage is a piece of paper and an agreement that's not exactly binding....
+++ GlaD0S has given voice to ThunderClap
<Jack[Swift]>: My opinion on marrige is that it comes with tons of legal benefits and that's a bout it
<Lizzy[zesta]>: unless you are religious
<Jack[Swift]>: >Agnostic
<Lizzy[zesta]>: "then theres no reason too"
<ThunderClap>: Atheist 
<Jack[Swift]>: legal benefits
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<Polite[Julianne]>: Marriage is only important in a spiritual and legal manner
<ThunderClap>: ^
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: Legal benefits...? The nuptial insurance policy or whatever?
<Polite[Julianne]>: Spiritual not so much if you don't care for it
<Hound[Claire]>: To provide an exposition, I'm wondering about the moral theory of it as someone with a baptist background.  As such, though you may not personally agree, marriage is an institution ordained by God between a man and a woman in an analogy of how JC is related to the church.
<Polite[Julianne]>: Yeah
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: >.>
<Polite[Julianne]>: Ability to see a spouse in the hospital
<Jack[Swift]>: Healthcare is what I was talking about 
<Jack[Swift]>: yeah
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: Hrm
<Polite[Julianne]>: Legal things like deciding to pull the plug etc
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<Selwyn[Mizore]>: This isn't quite necessary for a tulpa 
<Quora[Twi|Nibi}>: How would I decide to pull the plug though?
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: "Yes"
<Polite[Julianne]>: Your choice but you only get the choice if you're married
<Quora[Twi|Nibi}>: In a way isn't that suicide?
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<Lizzy[zesta]>: "well, it would be the same as a normal marrage technacally, i would think"
<Polite[Julianne]>: Or the person is your close family member by blood
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: No, it can be dictated in your will
<Polite[Julianne]>: Or that I guess
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: Wait what quora/
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: ?
<Hound[Claire]>: However, this institution requires two separate parties.  A tulpa is an... separate extension of a single person's mind.
<Quora[Twi|Nibi}>: Hound[Claire]: That's why it would be suicide for me
<Polite[Julianne]>: I suggest finding a priest Hound
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: Which is why I don't think it's necessary, but having said that, there are no real moral difficulties with marrying your tulpa...
<Polite[Julianne]>: They can work out the religious ramifications for you
<Polite[Julianne]>: Maybe go to confession to make it anonymous
<Goopi>: Hound[Claire]: apart from running in the same brain, a tulpa can be quite separate, as separate as you let them
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: "Father, I have sinned. I married myself"
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: o.o
<Polite[Julianne]>: Well you aren't confessing a sin
<Polite[Julianne]>: Just asking a theological question heh
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: okay.
<Hound[Claire]>: [He was rather bashful when he had a dream about his piano teacher]
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: I don't have a christian background
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<Polite[Julianne]>: me neither
*** jx[vinyl] is now known as vinyl[jx]
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<Selwyn[Mizore]>: llalalaa
<vinyl[jx]>: hi guys, we're possessing. i think.
<Lizzy[zesta]>: we do
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: How do you do jx, vinyl
<Hound[Claire]>: It will be a most interesting conversation with my pastor.  One which I will probably record and then put on Youtube.
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: oh
Goopi was raised Christian but is not religious and dunno what I really believe in
<vinyl[jx]>: i used the liquid color method.
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: Hound[Claire], please put that on tulpa.info I want to see it
<Hound[Claire]>: I will.
<Lizzy[zesta]>: we are bolth still religious
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: I'm not quite sure what I am
<vinyl[jx]>: it works as long as you don't mix the colors, according to jx.
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: Agnostic would be the best description...
<swashy>: This is getting off topic.
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: wait
<Selwyn[Mizore]>: I thought the Liquid color method needed you to mix colors?
<Quora[Twi|Nibi}>: {no}
<Goopi>: to me, the only potential moral issues with marrying a tulpa are ones regarding how it might impact you or the tulpa
<Hound[Claire]>: I will, Selwyn[Mizore], and hopefully I'll have more things like it too.